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Open discussion E-mail and my reply

Posted by Richard on August 20th, 2009

I’ve enjoyed reading your opinions and value your dedication to civility in regard to political discourse. For the purpose of furthering the discussion I would like to respectfully request your opinion on a few things.

One is a chapter 4 from a book called ” the Peoples History of the United States” it specifically deals with the environment leading up to the Declaration of Independence and the forces that led to it’s creation.

heres the link:

http://books.google.com/books?id=P8V7J5qm5-YC&dq=peoples+history+of+the+united+states&printsec=frontcover&source=bn&hl=en&ei=WYWNSuy2A6HBtwfX1rH4DQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4#v=onepage&q=&f=false

Derek,

I read the chapter you mentioned and I have a few comments. First, I am not exactly sure what it is you are wanting me to comment on from the chapter. I was only able to ready some of it because they remove a few pages because it is free. (Ex. pages 61-62 and pages (71-72)

I can assume a couple of things that you wanted me to comment on; Item one is the obvious class “wars” that were being waged between upper class and lower class colonists. This included the middle class as a sort of fence straddler that had to be swayed to one side of the fence. I understand the ideas that are put forth concerning motivations for the “revolution” from Britain and the ideas of controlling the middle class to gain control of “the people”. However I must say this “point of view” is one of perception from neighborhood you grow up in, the family origins and experiences all mold an individual into who they become. It seems as though the thoughts and ideas of this well known author, who sells 100,000 copies of this book per year, also has his own story from his own neighborhood and cultural background. My point, the view from one side of the tracks is always different from the other side of the track.

The second thing that I think you are wanting me to understand from this reading, is the similarities of the times then and now. Upper class own most everything in the country. They hold much of the wealth and power, as they did back then. I think he states that the land ownership was something like 66% owned by top 10%. What I get is this; You can never have everyman have the exact same amount of power, wealth, experience, or abilities. Someone is always going to work harder than someone else. There are always going to be people that are smarter, better thinkers, more creative and more able to do certain things. To think that everyone can be more perfectly equal is a utopian idea.

Side note; Have you ever worked for a poor man? Poor men do not employ very many people. There are going to be rich people unless you take away private ownership completely.

(Continued) However, equal opportunity is something that is in place, it just take time to balance it out. The colonists had it wrong with slavery and discrimination against women. They were flat out wrong. With that being said, those wrongs were finally made right within the last 120 years with the adaptations to our constitution. I do not disagree with that one bit. Unfortunately I do not think that you can speed up the process arbitrarily of complete equal opportunity without swinging the pendulum in the other direction where ancestors of those who made the mistakes are punished out the idea of socialist justice. This is the viewpoint I feel this chapter is written from. It is meant to show the other side of the story. Which is fine. People are supposed to be able to see both side of the story and make their own judgements.

Just as in economic ideas and theories, equilibrium can be attained by the system, if the government would do the job it is supposed to. Uphold the rules, values and principles of “good people”. Not Democrat. Not republican. Americans! That means getting the hands out of the cookie jar. Both of them!

A lot of American citizens have lost the idea of what is right! Those citizens need to be held accountable. I am all for greedy people who drive banks, business’s, etc into the ground but make billions of dollars themselves beign punished. But, you can not take the wind out of the American sail of enginiuity by strangling the business development opportunities either. Taxes can and will be the death of American business. It, unions, and yes even things like the cost of health care have killed our industrial business here in the states. We make essentially nothing here anymore. We are almost completely a service industry! This is bad. Everything is a fine balance. I have always believed that. Hopefully we can get to one, before ideals, agendas, and ridiculous people tear the country apart.

I will watch the video on health care later and comment on it. Thanks for the opportunity for a healthy debate. Sorry to give you so much to read.

Good night,
Richard

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My Thoughts!

Posted by Richard on August 19th, 2009

These are my thoughts. I am not a community organizer, a republican hack, or anyone out for my own agenda. I am not a manufactured angry person, and I do have real concerns about the future of this country and the alarming changes that are taking place. Anything else said about my motivation is a lie.

Full disclosure;I am registered as a republican. However I have voted democrat and do vote for the people that I think present the most honest values and principles. Unfortunately, it seems as though most politicians are nothing more than liers and cheats. I am shedding the republican tag though. I consider myself a common sense American.

The country is not democrat and republican only. There are a lot of different parties that are more in line with these beliefs. Our government will have you believe that they are the only options. This needs to change. If it does not, exactly what is happening now, will continue. Every time the other party gets in office, they will push through their so called agenda. I am tired of this. It does not focus on the true needs and wants of the American people. Government officials are not smarter than the American people. Government officials do work for us, no matter what they say.

Conservatives are not just Republicans. I have met Libertarians, Independents, Constitutionalists and even Democrats who are conservative. Conservative people are not the types to “take to the streets”. But we are doing it. This should make people think about why a more conservative person would take time out of their busy schedule to do something that is completely out of their norm. Personally I can tell that I have never been to a protest of any type until this year. I am standing up now because of stupid politicians in Washington and around the country who are doing nothing more than a glorified pissing contest. Their are holding their ground on their “party ideals” and that is it. The problem is that they are not paying attention to their history.

If you look at our history, government oppression is the reason this country came to be. When King George was taxing the colonials to the point of them having almost nothing to grow, invest, and save with, changes had to be made. My fear, is that the power that people get so addicted to, can infuriate people on both sides of the current arguments to push them to extremes. Frustrations commonly build up with people on the left side as well. None are immune to extremists. Just look at some of the people in our history like Mr. Ayers. Yes, there are extremists on the right also, who feel that the future of our country could come to an armed struggle. I will not say that all these people are nut jobs because they see the extreme possibilities. Which are exactly that, possibilities. Some of those people are nut jobs, but not all. Most will not admit it, but have wondered if this could actually be a real possibility. It has happened countless times, in countless countries over centuries. This is not a bad thing. To think that someone won’t do something stupid on either side of an argument is naive. However, this does  mean that the arguments made by people on the same side of an issue are all like this. There has to be a realization that people are different and have their own thoughts and there are also always going to be nut jobs that do stupid things.

People need to start looking at things from a realistic perspective and stop the “Status quo” argument. I do not want the same system that is obviously broken to stay in place. However, using health care as an example, I like mine and want to keep it. I should be able to. Fix what is broken. I do agree with Glenn Beck that Common Sense needs to return to Washington and all politicians. They need to become individuals who listen to their constituents again. I am tired of always seeing a Democrat and a Republican arguing on tv. All people need to be represented.

I am a concerned American who happens to be conservative. I am also open to debate in an appropriate manner. If you have comments, leave them, but do not belittle me. Have an open discussion.

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